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Lex Fridman · 2020-09-15 · 4h 23m

Stephen Wolfram: Fundamental Theory of Physics, Life, and the Universe | Lex Fridman Podcast #124

Stephen Wolfram explains how simple computational rules on hypergraphs could generate space, time, relativity, and quantum mechanics as a Theory of Everything.

Stephen Wolfram: Fundamental Theory of Physics, Life, and the Universe | Lex Fridman Podcast #124
The guest

Stephen Wolfram — Computer scientist, mathematician, and theoretical physicist; founder/CEO of Wolfram Research (Mathematica, Wolfram|Alpha, Wolfram Language) and author of A New Kind of Science and the Wolfram Physics Project.

The gist

In his second Lex Fridman appearance, Stephen Wolfram lays out the Wolfram Physics Project, which models the universe as a discrete hypergraph of 'atoms of space' updated by simple rules, with time being the progression of that computation. He argues that 20th-century physics (special relativity, general relativity, and quantum mechanics) emerges as pockets of computational reducibility from these rules, and that general relativity and quantum mechanics are mathematically the same theory operating in physical space versus 'branchial space.' He discusses computational irreducibility as a fundamental limit on prediction, the pandemic as an example of irreducibility, and surprising connections to higher category theory, blockchains, and meta-mathematics. The conversation closes on the philosophy of why the universe exists, alien intelligences, and engineering possibilities like warp drives.

Big reveals

  • Wolfram claims general relativity and quantum mechanics emerge generically from his simple rules and are 'at some level the same Theory.'
  • He states quantum mechanics (Feynman path integral) and general relativity (Einstein's equations) are mathematically the same equation, in branchial vs physical space.
  • Estimate that everything we care about in the universe is only one part in 10^120 of what's happening; the rest just maintains the structure of space.
  • Wolfram estimates the universe runs at roughly 10^500 Wolfram Language operations per second.
  • He admits the project's foundation is essentially the same structure he used to build computational languages for 40 years, but he didn't realize it.
  • Wolfram says no professional physicists are currently trying to find the fundamental theory of physics because 'it's too hard and people gave up.'
  • His guess that 'the universe exists' is undecidable to any entity embedded within the universe, analogous to Godel's second incompleteness theorem.

Things worth remembering

  • During the outdoor recording, Wolfram pulls out Wolfram|Alpha to check his sunburn risk as a live QA moment.
  • Ancient Babylonians tried to predict planets, weather, and battle outcomes with no idea which were predictable; only planetary motion turned out reducible.
  • Wolfram argues the 'heat death' of the universe isn't bad: the gas molecules are doing elaborate computation we just can't yet interpret.
  • Euclid's first definition, 'a point is that which has no part,' framed space as continuous for 2,000 years; Wolfram says it's wrong at the lowest level.
  • Reality's 'atoms of space' have no coordinates, only connections, like a Facebook friend network with no physical addresses.
  • Wolfram worked on quantum computing with Richard Feynman around 1981-83, trying to build a quantum randomness chip that didn't pan out.
  • Euclid's hardest theorem is that there are exactly five Platonic solids, requiring a 33-step proof path.
  • Wolfram notes deep connections between his model and distributed blockchains, where causal invariance mirrors eventual consistency.
  • Wolfram agreed to give a NASA workshop talk on faster-than-light travel and hadn't figured it out yet.
  • Causal invariance—branchings always eventually merging—is presented as the origin of both special relativity and objective reality.

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