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Joe Rogan · 2024-03-14 · 3h 01m

Joe Rogan Experience #2119 - James Lindsay

James Lindsay argues woke ideology, ESG, China's rise and degrowth policy are a coordinated cult-like plan to dismantle the West.

Joe Rogan Experience #2119 - James Lindsay
The guest

James Lindsay — Mathematician and author known for the 'grievance studies' hoax papers; writes and speaks on critical theory, queer theory, Marxism and 'woke' ideology

The gist

Joe Rogan and James Lindsay spend three hours connecting open-border policy, ESG investing, queer theory in schools, China's economic rise and climate 'degrowth' into one overarching thesis. Lindsay frames each as part of a 'neoliberal communism' model he traces to Deng Xiaoping and Western elites like Kissinger, Klaus Schwab and Rockefeller. He repeatedly invokes the 'politics of compliance' and cult dynamics to explain why people adopt these ideas. The pair also discuss Boeing's quality problems, the WHO pandemic treaty, electric-vehicle pollution, and Lindsay's books and documentaries on the subject.

Big reveals

  • Lindsay claims a meeting of Kissinger, Brzezinski, Deng Xiaoping and Rockefeller cooked up the plan to open Chinese markets, citing the film Mr. Deng Goes to Washington.
  • He explains ESG was created at the UN in 2003 by James Gifford to redirect roughly $6 trillion of pension money into activist 'impact investing.'
  • Lindsay says the Chinese are funding the trans movement and ties school 'indoctrination' to a Maoist strategy of compliance.
  • He cites the academic paper 'Drag Pedagogy,' quoting its phrase 'a preparatory introduction to alternate modes of kinship.'
  • Lindsay says Marxists themselves claim to have captured U.S. colleges of education by 1992, the basis of his documentary Beneath the Sheep's Clothing.
  • Lindsay theorizes Boeing's decline is engineered ESG-driven sabotage to let China's COMAC C919 jet replace the 737.
  • He describes the 'absolute zero' UK FIRES report calling for no beef, no lamb, and zero air travel by 2050.
  • Discussion of a study claiming electric vehicles release more particle pollution from brakes and tires than modern gas cars.

Things worth remembering

  • Joe praises Mariana van Zeller's show Trafficked, describing her filming cocaine production in Colombia and gun-running into Mexico.
  • Lindsay cites a Harvard corporate law document showing governance scores can rise by giving executives bonuses for implementing ESG.
  • Bud Light reportedly lost large value over the Dylan Mulvaney campaign tied to its Corporate Equality Index score.
  • Lindsay was banned from Twitter for five months over the 'OK groomer' phrase until Elon Musk reinstated him.
  • Robert Jay Lifton's book lists eight characteristics of brainwashing, starting with milieu (environment) control.
  • A Boeing whistleblower described inspectors being given only two hours to inspect a 41 section and being kicked off the aircraft.
  • Lindsay's grievance-studies hoax papers included one on 'rape culture in urban dog parks in Portland.'
  • A New York Post / Wall Street Journal-cited study found EV brakes and tires release roughly 1,850 times more particle pollution than modern tailpipes.
  • Both note that ice-core samples show Earth's temperature has never been static and has always fluctuated.
  • Lindsay says genealogy revealed he is a seventh cousin of Robert E. Lee through a common grandfather.

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