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Joe Rogan · 2024-12-12 · 3h 38m

Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin

Strength-equipment maker Bert Sorin and Joe Rogan riff on training, archery, hunting, fighting greats, and free speech.

Joe Rogan Experience #2242 - Bert Sorin
The guest

Bert Sorin — Former world-class hammer thrower and president of Sorinex, the strength-equipment company that outfits Rogan's gym and the UFC Performance Institute.

The gist

Bert Sorin brings his new Sorinex XOR rotational-power machine to the studio and the conversation opens on training innovation and the evolution of strength work in combat sports. Joe and Bert trade deep nerd talk on bowhunting gear, rangefinders, binoculars, and elk and big-game hunting. They explore the strongman and catch-wrestling history (Bill Kazmaier, Louie Simmons, Carl Gotch, Farmer Burns) and rank heavyweight boxing greats. The back half drifts into free speech, social media, the 2020 unrest, Elon buying Twitter, and the philosophy of choosing between being a 90-percent generalist and an all-in obsessive. They close on cooking wild game, carnivore eating, and hot sauces.

Big reveals

  • Joe details pulling his 84-90 lb bows up to 100 times a day, causing lower-back tendonitis he is rehabbing with NewFit EMS therapy.
  • Bert says he has been taking BPC-157 for eight years and is shocked strength professionals still don't know about it.
  • Aaron Rodgers' doctors told him not to do stem cells after his Achilles repair; he did them anyway and returned months early.
  • Joe recounts the Antonio Inoki vs Muhammad Ali fight where Inoki's grounded kicks gave Ali blood clots and infection that nearly required leg amputation.
  • Bert reveals a hammer-throw ankle injury caused a blood clot from knee to hip that doctors said should have killed him.
  • Bert's father was with Bill Kazmaier in 1980 at the Playboy Club for the silver-dollar deadlift of ~900 lbs.
  • Joe recalls a 40-year-ago house party where a punch sparked a house-wide brawl 'like World War Z.'

Things worth remembering

  • The Scottish 'clach neart' (stone of strength) was a family stone; departing warriors piled theirs as a monument so survivors knew who never returned.
  • The 265 lb Inver Stone sits in an old lady's garden in Scotland and strongmen make pilgrimages to lift it and sign her book.
  • A study by strength coach Loren Landow found increased ground force from squats/deadlifts equated to roughly a 12% increase in punching power.
  • Alex Pereira worked in a tire shop and Francis Ngannou worked in a sand mine, building rotational and digging strength before fighting.
  • Cadaver-graft ACL reconstructions act as scaffolding the body re-proliferates, leaving the knee vulnerable until about the six-month mark.
  • Kamaru Usman has to walk backwards down stairs because his knees are so bad he can't get knee over toe.
  • Bert uses a Deep Glow green dock light that schools striped bass nightly, catching 4-15 lb fish in the first few casts.
  • Bert marinated his son's first-pig backstraps in Coca-Cola for 36 hours; he learned soda marinades break the meat down.
  • Tucker Carlson learned the government could access his Signal app; a government contact told Bert a state actor only needs your phone number.
  • Catch wrestler Farmer Burns built such a strong neck (on a 160 lb frame) that he performed hanging-by-the-neck stunts for crowds.

Recommended in this episode

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Guest’s ownProduct

Sorinex XOR (X-Factor) rotational power machine

Sorinex

“pull it up Jamie ... the idea that you could push and pull rotational power machine it really is a genius idea man” — Joe Rogan 00:00:34
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Sorinex Franken Hyper

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“what I use like almost every day is that Franken hyper ... it's such a good device because you can do reverse hypers you can do back extensions” — Joe Rogan 03:36:38
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Guest’s ownProduct

Senor Lluga x Bert Sorin hot sauce collaboration

Senor Lluga

“I actually have my own little collaboration that I did with Senor luga ... three different hot sauces” — Bert Sorin 03:31:38
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Half Face Blades knife

Half Face Blades (Andrew Arrabito)

“I got Andy to make me a half face blade for me my dad and my two boys so they all matching” — Bert Sorin 03:32:33
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Leupold Full Draw 5 rangefinder

Leupold

“the full draw five I don't go anywhere without that ... that is to me” — Joe Rogan 03:48:24
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Leupold RX-5000 rangefinder

Leupold

“the RX 5000 yeah that thing is badass It's pretty dope so it does it syncs up with your onx hunt” — Joe Rogan 00:46:22
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Swarovski NL Pure binoculars

Swarovski

“until you put through the pick up those NL PES and you're like yeah ... I wish their glass was as good as swarovsk” — Joe Rogan 00:46:22
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Sig Sauer image-stabilizing binoculars

Sig Sauer

“I started leaving mine at home because I like the Sig so much and they did the new HD so it has a better glass now” — Bert Sorin 00:49:25
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The Gray Man series

Mark Greaney

“the greyman series ... Mark grainy writes them they're so ultraviolent they're so crazy ... I'm so addicted” — Joe Rogan 01:18:03
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Jack Carr novels

Jack Carr

“I listen to Jack Carr stuff at regular speed cuz I really just enjoy the books” — Bert Sorin 01:17:33
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Deep Glow underwater dock light

Deep Glow

“deep glow is the one yeah I'll send you the link for it it's super easy to do and mine kicks on right before dark” — Bert Sorin 03:23:10
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