Tom Segura — Stand-up comedian, author, and podcaster (Your Mom's House, 2 Bears 1 Cave). Here promoting his new Netflix sketch/short-film series Bad Thoughts, his long-held dream of making comedy films.
The gist
Tom Segura visits to promote Bad Thoughts, his new Netflix series built from short films, and explains how making it reconnected him with his original dream of doing comedy movies. The conversation roams across the craft of stand-up (hypnosis, cadence, dead bits), fitness and health protocols, and a long riff on how American food, schools, student-loan debt, and corporations prey on people. They dig into fakes and authenticity (counterfeit watches, lab diamonds, fake Apple stores), the corruption and subjective judging in boxing and MMA, and the predatory music business. The episode closes on AI-generated movies, simulation theory, brain damage in fighters, and free will versus determinism.
Big reveals
- Tom reveals Netflix only greenlit Bad Thoughts after he secretly shot a few episodes first, since the scripts alone wouldn't sell it.
- Tom admits his original LA dream was comedy movies, not stand-up, and Bad Thoughts felt like finally fulfilling it.
- Joe and Tom discuss a sleep protocol with peptides; Joe cites a study that ~20g of creatine offsets sleep deprivation.
- Jelly Roll has lost ~200 lbs and ditched his phone for a flip phone to cut out years of contacts.
- Tom admits he lied to his mother, telling her he'd cut the first Bad Thoughts story, then kept it in.
- Tom recounts a jeweler offering him a $50K ring, then weeks later trying to dump the same piece for $20K.
- Long breakdown of the Tim Kennedy vs. Yoel Romero fight where Romero got far more than the allotted minute to recover.
- Joe says if the UFC had existed in his competing days he'd 100% have fought, and would be brain-damaged now as a result.
Things worth remembering
- Joe takes creatine daily and cites research that ~20g can diminish the effects of sleep deprivation.
- Joe scored 161 on a grip-strength machine and is training to hit 190; UFC fighters tested vary wildly (Alex Pereira ~180).
- They argue US food is essentially 'poison' due to preservatives, enriched flour, and glyphosate banned in other countries.
- Med-school students reportedly get only about six hours of nutrition training.
- Counterfeiters now make $40 fake watches good enough to fool experts on $7,000 timepieces.
- A woman fired from Equinox after being late 47 times in 10 months sued for racism and won $11 million.
- Lab-created diamonds are chemically identical to mined ones but demand is ~99% lower because buyers want the 'real' thing.
- Americans gambled $148.7 billion in 2024, roughly the same figure cited for a controversial government spending claim.
- Courtney Love's famous essay broke down how the music business takes ~50% of touring and merch and leaves artists in debt.
- A studio aims to make studio-quality AI movies for around $500K, with AI writing scripts from existing films.