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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27 · 3h 36m

Joe Rogan Experience #2083 - Taylor Sheridan

Taylor Sheridan on building Yellowstone and 1883, the brutal truth of westward expansion, comedy's revival, and modern political and cultural dysfunction.

Joe Rogan Experience #2083 - Taylor Sheridan
The guest

Taylor Sheridan — Screenwriter, director and creator of Yellowstone, 1883, 1923, Mayor of Kingstown, Sicario, Wind River and the upcoming Land Man.

The gist

Joe Rogan talks with writer-director Taylor Sheridan, who explains why he tells stories without judging the worlds he depicts and why critics misjudge his work. They dig deep into the real, savage history behind 1883: desperate non-English-speaking immigrants, wagon-train deaths, Comanche raids and the diseases that wiped out Native nations. The conversation roams across hunting and food self-sufficiency, the ethics of veganism, nuclear testing, communism and Cuban athletes, and the dangers of manipulating the rule of law around Trump and the primaries. They close on AI, the soul, ancient civilizations and the fentanyl-fueled drug war that Sheridan researched for Sicario.

Big reveals

  • The building Joe bought for his Austin comedy club was a theater built by a cult leader (Jaime Gomez), the subject of the documentary Holy Hell.
  • Taylor's cousins were the Federal Marshals at Waco; one knocked on Koresh's door and walked roughly 30 women and kids out before the fire.
  • Taylor announces he's making Land Man with Billy Bob Thornton, a show about the oil and energy industry.
  • Taylor wrote all 10 episodes of Yellowstone Season 3 on Saturdays over 10 weeks while directing a film with Angelina Jolie.
  • For an 1883 storm scene Taylor rescheduled the shoot to a day with 60 mph winds so 'God did a lot of the CGI.'
  • Both warn that removing an unconvicted Trump from the Colorado ballot sets a dangerous precedent that could later be used against anyone.

Things worth remembering

  • Around 40% of the immigrants crossing in 1880s wagon trains couldn't even speak English.
  • Some immigrants came from European regions where it was actually against the law to swim, so no one could.
  • Comanche raiders looted parasols after burning Galveston and rode off as thousands of warriors carrying colorful umbrellas to block the sun.
  • An estimated 90% of Native Americans killed in North America died from European-introduced diseases, not warfare.
  • Mormon hand-cart pioneers who missed a Wyoming pass by July 4th died in the snow; about 25,000 died in one year.
  • An organic avocado farm in central California kills on average around 19,000 ground squirrels a year.
  • By 1967 the United States alone had conducted around 510 nuclear test detonations.
  • Cuban boxer Teofilo Stevenson won three Olympic golds but never turned pro to fight Muhammad Ali.
  • Bandits killed more wagon-train immigrants and Oregon Trail travelers than Native Americans did.
  • The illegal drug trade (about $3.3 trillion) is estimated to generate more revenue than the pharmaceutical industry (about $3.2 trillion).

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Hell or High Water

Taylor Sheridan

“first thing I ever saw that you did was hell high water but going through my friend Andrew Schultz turned me on to Yellowstone” — Joe Rogan 00:00:01
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Yellowstone

Taylor Sheridan

“my friend Andrew Schultz turned me on to Yellowstone I got a text message from him once like at 1:00 in the morning” — Joe Rogan 00:00:01
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1923

Taylor Sheridan

“Yellowstone is great but 1923 is better but 1883 holy and on your recommendation I finished it last night” — Joe Rogan 00:00:32
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1883

Taylor Sheridan

“on your recommendation I finished it last night I was up till 1:30 in the morning I didn't sleep” — Joe Rogan 00:00:32
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Mayor of Kingstown

Taylor Sheridan

“I have a show called mayor of kingtown which is all about literally the decay of an American city” — guest 00:02:38
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“my favorite movie that you can never make today is Tropic Thunder oh it's a great movie I'm so glad they haven't banned it” — guest 00:05:16
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“there's a documentary on the cult called holy hell you should watch it it's pretty crazy” — host 00:15:44
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Wind River

Taylor Sheridan

“talked about it in Wind River at the very end when he's giving the speech to I don't know if you've seen that one” — guest 00:47:34
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Land Man

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“I'm making a TV show about this right now called land man with Billy Bob thoron about the oil industry and about energy” — guest 00:49:41
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“that to me is a perfect Sports film if you haven't seen that movie you got to see that movie it's Billy Bob Thorton and Tim McGraw” — guest 01:41:04
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“have you seen chimp Nation no that's another great series incredible they kill each other they go to war” — host 01:45:31
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Sicario

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“this will be a plot in something here in two years you just watch sakario is awesome how much is involved in research” — host 03:20:09
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