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Tim Ferriss · 2025-10-29 · 1h 30m

Selling 600+ Million Books, Success Principles, and More — Jack Canfield

Jack Canfield tells Tim Ferriss how Chicken Soup for the Soul beat 144 rejections, plus his success principles on responsibility, beliefs, and relentless action.

Selling 600+ Million Books, Success Principles, and More — Jack Canfield
The guest

Jack Canfield — Co-creator of the Chicken Soup for the Soul series (over 500 million copies sold) and author of The Success Principles. A former inner-city teacher turned success/human-potential trainer who introduced Tim Ferriss to his first book agent.

The gist

Tim Ferriss reconnects with Jack Canfield, the mentor who introduced him to his book agent roughly 20 years ago. Canfield traces his life from a poor, abusive childhood in Wheeling, West Virginia, through Harvard, teaching in an all-black Chicago high school, and his pivotal mentorship under self-made multimillionaire W. Clement Stone, where he learned goal-setting, affirmations, and visualization. He recounts the origin and grind behind Chicken Soup for the Soul, including the 'goosebumps' title revelation, 144 publisher rejections, and the 'rule of five' marketing system that turned the book into a phenomenon. The conversation then turns to his core teachings: taking 100% responsibility (E+R=O), clearing unconscious limiting beliefs, the power of community, and cleaning up incompletions. Now 81 and semi-retiring, Canfield shares his longevity practices, his experiences with ayahuasca at Rythmia, and gratitude for a long friendship with Tim.

Big reveals

  • A Chinese publisher (OnHua/Oni Publishing, half government-owned) turned Chicken Soup into a school English textbook and printed millions, but because of the contract Canfield 'didn't see one penny' from the government-school side, teaching him to write better contracts.
  • Chicken Soup for the Soul was rejected by 144 publishers and took over a year to sell, despite the authors going booth-to-booth at the American Booksellers Association with backpacks full of spiral-bound stories.
  • The title came from a meditation/vision: a green chalkboard appeared and a hand wrote 'chicken soup,' with a voice explaining people's spirits are sick with 'resignation, hopelessness, and fear'; everyone he told got goosebumps but all 21 New York publishers did not.
  • A publisher employee laughed and said they'd sell maybe 20,000 copies 'if you're lucky'; Canfield insisted on 1.5 million in a year and a half, and they sold roughly 1.3 million in that span.
  • Canfield and co-author Mark Victor Hansen eventually sold the Chicken Soup brand, 220+ titles, all future royalties, and trademarks 'for tens and tens and tens... of millions of dollars' after burning out and noticing market saturation.
  • At 81, Canfield is semi-retiring to learn cooking, oil painting, and piano and spend time with his wife and grandson, though he jokes he is 'not retired' because he still has four books in progress.
  • Canfield has done 20 ayahuasca journeys (5 visits, 4 each) at Rythmia in Costa Rica, calling them 'literally life-changing,' including one where he forgave Vladimir Putin and recognized his own drive for significance.

Things worth remembering

  • Canfield's mentor W. Clement Stone, founder of Combined Insurance, was worth $600 million in 1968 and was best friends with Napoleon Hill, author of Think and Grow Rich.
  • In his very first interview, Stone challenged Canfield to cut one hour of TV a day, calculating it yields 365 extra hours a year, roughly a 14-month productive year.
  • Canfield set a $100,000 goal, taped a traced $100 bill (with extra zeros added) to his ceiling, used affirmations, and earned $92,328 that year before later hitting his million-dollar goal.
  • Entertainer Sammy Davis Jr. personally told a 22-year-old Canfield he 'must be really cool' to win teacher-of-the-year from his inner-city students.
  • The 'rule of five' meant doing five book-promotion actions daily; the authors did up to five interviews a day, inspired by Scott Peck's The Road Less Traveled, which stayed on the NYT list for over a decade.
  • The publisher's first shipment was about 800 books; selling 80 (one-tenth) the first week signaled a phenomenon, and demand eventually required three shifts on a rotary press.
  • Canfield holds a Guinness World Record for having seven Chicken Soup books on the New York Times bestseller list simultaneously in 1998/1999.
  • Canfield cites neuroscience that changing a belief takes about 66 days of repetition, and uses a West Point technique of touching the door jamb each time you pass through to trigger an affirmation.
  • Canfield read every story in the first Chicken Soup book aloud over three days at a Colorado ski resort to ensure it came 'trippingly off the tongue'; that book sold about 105 million copies.
  • The episode features Jocko Willink's 'Good' philosophy from Tim's book Tools of Titans, reframing every setback (cancelled mission, no funding, injury) as an opportunity.

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