Martha Beck on tracking joy in the body, her year of zero lies, and how curiosity defeats anxiety.

Martha Beck — Harvard-trained sociologist, life coach, and bestselling author (The Way of Integrity); ex-Mormon known for radical honesty and somatic, joy-based coaching.
Tim Ferriss talks with Martha Beck about how she helps people get off what their mutual friend Boyd Varty calls 'the path of not here' by tracking joy in the body the way a ranger tracks an animal. Beck recounts the year at age 29 when she vowed to tell no lies, which cost her family, marriage, religion, and career but left only the path of joy. She describes a near-death-style 'white light' experience during emergency surgery, her departure from Mormonism, and her belief that consciousness is the primary reality. The conversation digs into practical tools: an 'integrity cleanse,' a five-senses exercise to jump from the analytical left hemisphere into the right, Byron Katie's The Work and its 'turnarounds,' and Internal Family Systems parts work. Beck closes on her thesis that the opposite of anxiety is not calm but creativity, and that accepting rather than rejecting anxious parts is the real breakthrough.
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Boyd Varty
“He's the author of The Lion Tracker's Guide to Life... beautiful little book, which I've read multiple times. And he is one hell of a guy.” — Tim Ferriss 00:01:56Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss
“I gave your 4-Hour Workweek to my then-teenage children. I said, I want you to learn the way this man thinks.” — Martha Beck 00:01:19Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss
“I remember hearing when I was working on The 4-Hour Chef, someone who was involved in one of these very, very well-known schools” — Tim Ferriss 01:03:25Find it on Amazon
Martha Beck
“Your recent book is The Way of Integrity: Finding the Path to Your True Self, New York Times bestseller, Oprah's Book Club selection.” — Tim Ferriss 02:28:46Find it on Amazon
Martha Beck
“Your upcoming book is Beyond Anxiety: Curiosity, Creativity, and Finding Your Life's Purpose, that is forthcoming.” — Tim Ferriss 02:28:46Find it on Amazon
Stephen Mitchell
“I read Stephen's version of the Tao Te Ching right around the time I had the white light experience... it was like my nervous system caught fire when I read that version.” — Martha Beck 01:22:21Find it on Amazon
Jay Earley
“There are books out there, one is called Self-Therapy by Jay Earley that tells it with little illustrations and everything to tell you how to use it.” — Martha Beck 02:02:16Find it on Amazon
Tara Brach
“it's time for me to go back and reread Radical Acceptance by Tara Brach, probably. Martha Beck: Yeah, that's a great book.” — Martha Beck 02:07:12Find it on Amazon
Lewis Hyde
“There is a really fun book... Trickster Makes This World by Lewis Hyde... It's fascinating. Really fun book if people want to get into trickster mythology.” — Tim Ferriss 02:27:05Find it on Amazon
Neil Gaiman
“Make Good Art, a commencement speech by Neil Gaiman is unbelievably good, and watch the actual delivery. Watch the video” — Tim Ferriss 01:57:38Find it on Amazon
A.J. Jacobs
“if people want to read something very funny, there's an article, it's an old article from Esquire called I Think You're Fat by a friend of mine, A.J. Jacobs.” — Tim Ferriss 00:43:33Find it on Amazon