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Joe Rogan · 2024-03-06 · 2h 11m

Joe Rogan Experience #2114 - Zack Snyder

Zack Snyder talks 300, Watchmen, deconstructing superhero myths, bodybuilding obsessives, Netflix's distribution power, and losing his daughter.

Joe Rogan Experience #2114 - Zack Snyder
The guest

Zack Snyder — Film director behind 300, Watchmen, Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, Justice League, Army of the Dead and Rebel Moon.

The gist

Zack Snyder joins Joe Rogan for a wide-ranging conversation about his filmmaking career and creative philosophy. He recounts how 300 was a green-screen labor of love shot in 60 days, why he loves deconstructing comic-book myths like Batman and Watchmen, and how his director's cuts were born from studio battles. The pair riff on bodybuilding extremes, Spartan culture, Formula 1, golf trick shots, video-game addiction, and how Netflix's distribution model lets weird, boutique films reach huge audiences. Snyder also speaks candidly about losing his daughter to suicide during Justice League and how the fandom rallied to raise money for suicide prevention.

Big reveals

  • 300 was shot in 60 days with no director's cut because every frame they filmed made the final movie.
  • There was zero CGI used on the actors' bodies in 300 because they couldn't afford it.
  • Snyder left Justice League after losing his daughter to suicide during post-production.
  • Fans raised over a million dollars for the suicide-prevention foundation AFSP in support of the Snyders.
  • Snyder's mother gifted him a Heavy Metal magazine subscription as a kid without realizing it was an adult publication.
  • Netflix let Snyder make hard R-rated three-hour director's cuts of Rebel Moon as a bonus alongside the PG-13 versions.
  • Snyder's brother Sam died in a car accident when Zack was 13, which shaped his views on religion and spirituality.
  • The MPAA ratings board kept rating Batman v Superman 'R' because they disliked the idea of Batman fighting Superman.

Things worth remembering

  • Snyder's son Eli played the young Rorschach in Watchmen and was second-unit director on Rebel Moon.
  • Snyder's trainer Alessandro trained the cast for Rebel Moon and is a competitive bodybuilder in his 60s.
  • Alessandro once stood next to Ronnie Coleman backstage at Night of the Champions in San Francisco.
  • Spartan boys went on the agoge around age seven and the elite 'crypteia' were encouraged to kill helots.
  • Formula 1 drivers have off-the-charts reaction times and develop very thick necks from G-forces.
  • Phil Mickelson can hit a full pitching-wedge swing that arcs a ball over a person and into their hands.
  • Snyder spent ten years shooting TV commercials before directing his first feature, Dawn of the Dead.
  • Watchmen holds a record for the most male frontal nudity (Dr. Manhattan) of any studio film.
  • Philip Glass personally approved licensing his music for the Dr. Manhattan birth sequence.
  • Snyder owns the airplanes needed to film an adaptation of Richard Bach's book Illusions.

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RecommendedBook

Heavy Metal

“I was obsessed with um growing up this comic book called heavy metal yes which and heavy metal is like my thing” — Zack Snyder 01:21:26
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The Fountainhead

Ayn Rand

“I pitched them Fountain Head because like I'm a you know I've written this super adaptation of the of that book” — Zack Snyder 01:56:52
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Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah

Richard Bach

“I've always been obsessed with um uh Richard Bach he has this book called illusions that I've owned for a long time that I've always wanted to do” — Zack Snyder 02:06:46
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300

Zack Snyder

“you made two of my all-time favorite movies The Watchmen are love 300 okay awesome those are I have like a top 20 list” — Joe Rogan 00:00:01
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Watchmen

Zack Snyder

“you made two of my all-time favorite movies The Watchmen are love 300 okay awesome those are I have like a top 20 list” — Joe Rogan 00:00:01
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Dawn of the Dead

Zack Snyder

“what happened was I did Dawn of the Dead and then from Dawn of the Dead uh I was supposed to do I Am Legend” — Zack Snyder 00:03:38
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Rebel Moon

Zack Snyder

“when you see the R-rated version of Rebel moon when it comes out um because basically the deal I made with Netflix” — Zack Snyder 01:21:56
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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Zack Snyder

“that was the whole thing with Batman versus Superman I remember the ratings board said we just don't like the idea of Batman fighting Superman” — Zack Snyder 01:31:17
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Zack Snyder's Justice League

Zack Snyder

“you know we after Justice League I think one of the things that we we really as a as a group as a family” — Zack Snyder 01:39:43
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Man of Steel

Zack Snyder

“the thing about Man of Steel that I felt like is that man of steel is the movie that the people will come up to me and say like that movie changed my life” — Zack Snyder 01:49:05
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Army of the Dead

Zack Snyder

“Scott stuber who um was the executive at Netflix who was my executive on Army of the dead he was the one that hired me to do Dawn” — Zack Snyder 01:00:36
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Sucker Punch

Zack Snyder

“When I made soccer punch I remember we were talking about it and uh I think it was my script supervisor” — Zack Snyder 01:34:23
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Barbie

Greta Gerwig (inferred)

“I like the Barbie movie okay I found it enjoyable I went with my daughters and I had a good mindset” — Joe Rogan 01:05:49
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