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Tim Ferriss · 2022-02-17 · 1h 51m

How to Tame Your Inner Critic | Anne Lamott

Anne Lamott on taming the inner critic, radical self-care, writing badly on purpose, recovery, prayer, and turning pain into medicine.

How to Tame Your Inner Critic | Anne Lamott
The guest

Anne Lamott — Best-selling author of 19 books including the writing classic 'Bird by Bird' and faith essay collections like 'Traveling Mercies.' A Sunday school teacher, recovering alcoholic, and Guggenheim fellow known for blending candor, humor, and spirituality.

The gist

Tim Ferriss interviews author Anne Lamott, opening with how 'Bird by Bird' rescued his own near-breakdown while writing 'The 4-Hour Workweek.' Lamott unpacks her core writing teachings—shitty first drafts, the one-inch picture frame, taking it 'bird by bird,' and turning down the self-critical 'KFKD radio.' She shares deeply personal stories of a people-pleasing childhood, 35 years of sobriety after a three-day blackout, and several dark nights of the soul that catalyzed her practice of radical self-care. The conversation ranges across prayer, anxiety, her husband Neal Allen's inner-critic work, welcoming disowned parts of herself to dinner, and the title and themes of her book 'Dusk, Night, Dawn.' Both share raw moments, including Tim's own past suicidal period, illustrating how vulnerability and storytelling become medicine.

Big reveals

  • Tim reveals 'Bird by Bird' was a 'life raft' that helped him finish 'The 4-Hour Workweek' after a near-complete nervous breakdown mid-writing.
  • Lamott describes her July 1986 three-day blackout (July 4-6) that bottomed her out and led to 35 years of sobriety, when 'grace found her.'
  • She recounts the dark night driving into the woods screaming, then her mentor telling her she finally saw that everyone else was her priority—the breakthrough into radical self-care.
  • Lamott tells of holding a sharpened pencil to her addicted son Sam's throat, kicking him off the property, before he got clean—now 10 years sober.
  • Tim discloses his own past: a planned suicide a week away, interrupted only because a library postcard about a euthanasia book was misrouted to his mother's house.
  • Lamott explains finding her 'inner Donald Trump,' inner Blanche DuBois, and inner Jane—welcoming disowned, shameful parts of herself 'to the table for soup' as a path to wholeness.
  • She reveals the meaning behind the title 'Dusk, Night, Dawn'—written for audiences who felt no hope amid Trump and climate despair, insisting the dawn always comes.

Things worth remembering

  • 'Bird by Bird' comes from Lamott's father comforting her overwhelmed brother on a school bird report: 'just take it bird by bird, buddy.'
  • Lamott cites E.L. Doctorow's line that writing is like driving at night with headlights on—you only see a little ways ahead but can make the whole journey.
  • Her husband Neal Allen wrote 'Shapes of Truth' and teaches taming the inner critic by giving it a new job as 'ethical consultant' who waits in a library.
  • 'KFKD radio' (K-F-k'd) is Lamott's term from 'Bird by Bird' for the constant self-critical broadcast playing in your head 24/7.
  • Tom Weston's 'five rules of being human' Lamott shares—escalating shame rules ending with 'if you insist on showing up, have the decency to be ashamed.'
  • Lamott now writes in 45-minute 'pods,' joking the math means a 45-minute pod yields about 30 minutes of actual writing.
  • Tim explains we don't recognize our own recorded voice because we normally hear it through skull and jawbone vibration combined with the sound.
  • Lamott quotes a 1935 priest who told AA founder Bill Wilson, 'sometimes I think that heaven is just a new pair of glasses.'
  • 'Dusk, Night, Dawn' was conceived as a riff on Garcia Marquez's 'Love in the Time of Cholera'—soul and hope 'in the time of Trump and climate papers.'
  • Lamott shares a woman with recurrent oral cancer who waved away worry saying 'God's got it'—words Lamott had engraved on a gold coin she wears.

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