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Lex Fridman · 2020-11-13 · 2h 49m

Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand and the Philosophy of Objectivism | Lex Fridman Podcast #138

Objectivist philosopher Yaron Brook makes the full case for Ayn Rand's reason, rational selfishness, and unbridled capitalism.

Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand and the Philosophy of Objectivism | Lex Fridman Podcast #138
The guest

Yaron Brook — Chairman of the Ayn Rand Institute, host of The Yaron Brook Show, and one of the world's best-known objectivist thinkers. He co-authored Free Market Revolution and Equal Is Unfair.

The gist

Yaron Brook gives Lex Fridman a guided tour of Ayn Rand's life and the five branches of her philosophy of objectivism, starting from metaphysics and reason and building up to ethics, politics, and aesthetics. He argues that reason is humanity's only means of survival, that rational selfishness is moral, and that capitalism is the ideal system because it leaves individuals free to pursue their own happiness through win-win relationships. The pair debate free will, Donald Hoffman's view of perception, FDA regulation, wealth inequality, and anarchy, with Brook defending objective reality and limited government against each challenge. Brook closes by lamenting rising tribalism and the cultural decline of reason, while remaining optimistic that Enlightenment ideas will ultimately prevail.

Big reveals

  • Brook calls Sam Harris's determinism 'completely unscientific,' arguing we directly experience free will through introspection.
  • He recounts how Ayn Rand, a young Russian immigrant, got discovered by Cecil B. DeMille on a Hollywood studio lot and worked as an extra on King of Kings.
  • Brook reveals Marxist director Oliver Stone is a huge fan of The Fountainhead and dreams of filming it (but would gut its individualism).
  • Asked about Godel's incompleteness theorem, Brook intuits it must be 'false philosophically,' blaming math concepts detached from reality.
  • He argues Bill Gates did far more for the world's poor than Mother Teresa, whom he calls miserable and her altruism harmful.
  • Brook flatly calls anarchism 'infantile' and 'ridiculous,' insisting force must be monopolized by objective government.
  • He says even he is not famous because objectivism upends everything, and credits Jordan Peterson's success to offering an 'easy out.'

Things worth remembering

  • Ayn Rand is one of the rare authors whose books sell more after death; The Fountainhead took 12 publishers before acceptance.
  • A Smithsonian survey of CEOs ranked Atlas Shrugged the second most influential book, behind only the Bible.
  • Objectivism holds emotions are real but 'not tools of cognition'; reason via the senses is our only source of knowledge.
  • Brook argues a free market would replace the FDA with competing drug-rating agencies vetted through your doctor.
  • He notes that in daily life he lives closer to Bill Gates than to a homeless person, despite the vast wealth gap.
  • He cites studies where Russians prefer everyone getting $100 over themselves getting $1,000 if a neighbor gets $10,000.
  • On love, Brook quotes Rand: before you say 'I love you' you must understand the 'I'; love is the most selfish emotion.
  • He praises Taiwan, South Korea, and Hong Kong's test-trace-isolate COVID response over Western lockdowns.
  • Brook claims humanity has been in the Enlightenment for only ~250 years and its influence is now fading into tribalism.

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The Fountainhead

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Introduction to Objectivist Epistemology

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Free Market Revolution

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Equal Is Unfair

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The Yaron Brook Show

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