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Lex Fridman · 2021-10-10 · 2h 35m

Richard Wrangham: Violence, Sex, and Fire in Human Evolution | Lex Fridman Podcast #229

Harvard anthropologist Richard Wrangham explains how violence, cooking, and the killing of alpha males forged Homo sapiens.

Richard Wrangham: Violence, Sex, and Fire in Human Evolution | Lex Fridman Podcast #229
The guest

Richard Wrangham — A biological anthropologist at Harvard who began his career with Jane Goodall studying chimpanzees. He is known for theories on the roles of fire, cooking, and violence in human evolution and authored Catching Fire and The Goodness Paradox.

The gist

Wrangham distinguishes reactive aggression (impulsive, dramatically reduced in humans) from proactive coalitionary violence (still high, shared with chimps and wolves). He argues Homo sapiens self-domesticated when coalitions of beta males began executing bullying alpha males, lowering reactive aggression and enabling cooperation, language, and culture. He explains his Catching Fire thesis that controlled fire and cooking gave Homo erectus smaller guts, more energy, and bigger brains. The conversation ranges across sexual violence, tribalism, dictators, nuclear deterrence, conservation, and the meaning of life.

Big reveals

  • Chimps and bonobos physically engage in reactive violence 500 to 1,000 times more often than humans, two to three orders of magnitude.
  • Wrangham argues there has been natural selection in favor of enthusiasm about killing, an active potential for enjoying it under the right conditions.
  • His central thesis: Homo sapiens is a self-domesticated species created when beta-male coalitions executed alpha males, suppressing reactive aggression.
  • Catching Fire claim that the control of fire and cooking, not Homo sapiens, made us 'human' by creating Homo erectus 2 million years ago.
  • Wrangham seriously proposes that getting rid of males could reduce conflict, calling it a fantasy worth talking about as reproductive tech advances.
  • Cooking cut chewing time from roughly 50% of the day to about one hour, freeing energy and time that enabled larger brains.
  • He frames male tribal violence as a 'bug' for the species even while acknowledging he is a male himself.

Things worth remembering

  • Aristotle noted long ago that humans behave like domesticated animals because we are so non-violent.
  • As much as 50% of adult wolf mortality is due to being killed by other wolves.
  • The average chimpanzee attack on a single male involves about eight attackers, who immobilize and dismember the victim with no weapons.
  • Sapiens wiped out Neanderthals within roughly 3,000 years of entering Europe 43,000 years ago, likely via larger groups and better weapons.
  • The human brain is about 2.5% of body weight but consumes around 25% of our calories.
  • Chimps hunt about two or three times a month for ~20 minutes; humans hunt around 20 times a month for ~6 hours.
  • Human brain size has actually declined since at least 30,000 years ago, mirroring the smaller brains of domesticated animals.
  • Female bonobos rub their genitals together, appearing to have orgasms, as a conflict-resolution device, the 'make love, not war' species.
  • Wrangham was once charged by the gorilla Digit at Dian Fossey's camp and knocked five yards into the bushes.

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