A 25-year FBI counterintelligence veteran reveals how body language, confidence and psychological comfort let you read people and win negotiations.

Joe Navarro — Former FBI special agent of 25 years specializing in counterintelligence and behavioral analysis, now a world-renowned body language expert and author of 14 books including 'Be Exceptional' and 'What Every Body Is Saying'.
Joe Navarro walks Steven Bartlett through what a quarter-century of catching spies and interrogating enemies taught him about human behavior. He explains how tiny nonverbal cues (a shaking cigarette, the way someone carries flowers) betray deception, and how the face, lips, neck and hands broadcast comfort and discomfort. The conversation turns practical for business: how to negotiate by controlling time and seating, how to project a 'command voice', how confidence is trained one small competence at a time, and how creating 'psychological comfort' is the most powerful human skill. Navarro also breaks down narcissists and dangerous personalities, advising listeners to recognize the traits and get out. He closes reflecting on the emotional toll of the work and the value of genuine human connection in a screen-dominated age.
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“there's a great book called the body keeps the score the body will definitely keeps the score you will pay a price for being in the proximity of a toxic individual” — Joe Navarro 02:05:37Find it on Amazon
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“Brian Hall who encouraged me to write my one of my books called Louder Than Words invited me to go to Harvard” — Joe Navarro 01:32:36Find it on Amazon
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“In 2009, you wrote a book called Narcissists Among Us. Yes.” — Steven Bartlett 02:02:00Find it on Amazon
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“that's why I wrote the dangerous personalities because I have these robust checklists in there which have been tested many times” — Joe Navarro 02:04:34Find it on Amazon
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“you say that exceptional individuals are made not born... you've identified several traits that make someone an exceptional person” — Steven Bartlett 01:49:23Find it on Amazon