DMT researcher Rick Strassman joins Joe Rogan for a sprawling talk on psychedelics, the Bible in ancient Hebrew, AI, and consciousness.

Rick Strassman — Psychiatrist and clinical researcher who ran the first U.S. government-sanctioned DMT studies; author of DMT: The Spirit Molecule and the new memoir My Altered States.
Joe Rogan and psychiatrist Rick Strassman range across an enormous set of topics, opening with John Reeves' Alaskan bone 'Boneyard' and Strassman's year as a Fairbanks county psychiatrist. They dig deep into psychedelics, the DMT realm, whether its entities are real or cultural projections, and the dangers of spiritual narcissism in the psychedelic scene. A long middle stretch speculates about AI, neuralink, universal language, telepathy, and a possible post-biological future of humanity. Strassman, who retaught himself Biblical Hebrew over 16 years, discusses reading Genesis as if it were literally real, the Tower of Babel, Lilith, and the Nephilim. The conversation closes on COVID-era media narratives, ivermectin, fluoride, lead, stem-cell medicine, and ancient flood myths.
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Thomas Campbell
“that um The Theory of Everything book Thomas Campbell yeah it's really good yeah I'm in the middle of that right now” — Joe Rogan 00:11:35Find it on Amazon
Rick Strassman
“one of the ideas I put out in that 2014 book on the prophetic State uh the soul of Prophecy I propose” — guest 00:13:11Find it on Amazon
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“then it's exmachina did you ever see X makina yeah I love that movie one of our top 10 all-time favorite movies” — Joe Rogan 01:04:47Find it on Amazon
John Carpenter
“the version of The Thing by John Carpenter is my it was one of my favorite movies oh that was great” — guest 01:05:19Find it on Amazon
Olaf Stapledon
“one of my favorite books is called first and last men it's by Olaf stapledon he's a British science fiction writer” — guest 01:36:12Find it on Amazon
Netflix (inferred)
“Wild Wild Country well I love that one I read his book because I watched Wild Wild Country I was so blown away by it” — Joe Rogan 01:49:13Find it on Amazon
Rick Strassman
“that is the basis of that autobiographical novel I wrote a few years ago Joseph Levy escapes death yeah it's an account” — guest 02:04:19Find it on Amazon
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“I take that stuff I take Lion's man all the time and I always wonder how would my memory be if I didn't take it” — Joe Rogan 02:39:42Find it on Amazon
Rick Strassman
“alter States this is your book new book came out my Altered States and it is going to be available everywhere” — guest 03:09:53Find it on Amazon