Joe Rogan Experience #1966 - Big Jay Oakerson & Ari Shaffir

A loose, three-hour comedy hang anchored by Joe Rogan's obsession with the cult documentary Holy Hell, which leads into a sprawling discussion of cult leaders, NXIVM, and the David Koresh and Charles Manson families. The conversation winds through psychedelics and the stoned-ape theory, surveillance and the proposed RESTRICT Act, Hollywood actors who wreck their bodies for roles, and a long string of gross-out bits about porn, GG Allin, and animal anatomy. Throughout, the trio promote Big Jay Oakerson's new YouTube special Dog Belly and the comedy scene at Rogan's Austin Comedy Mothership. Late in the episode Rogan lays out Tom O'Neil's book Chaos and its CIA/MK-Ultra theory of the Manson murders. It is mostly storytelling and comedy rather than product talk.

• Big Jay reveals he commissioned an animated stoned-ape-theory video years ago, then plays the wrong one on air.
  00:39:38
• Big Jay Oakerson's special Dog Belly was filmed at Skankfest Vegas and is his first in seven years, with Ari Shaffir helping produce and edit it.
  01:50:19
• Ari recounts Big Jay nearly passing out from back-to-back dabs on Legion of Skanks, captured on video.
  01:59:12
• Rogan reveals Louis C.K. gave construction advice on the Comedy Mothership, leading them to lower ceilings and shrink stages.
  02:58:30
• The Mothership's original location fell through because it was the building owned by the Holy Hell cult discussed earlier.
  03:00:04
• Rogan summarizes Tom O'Neil's book Chaos, alleging the CIA/MK-Ultra dosed and guided Charles Manson to discredit the hippie movement.
  03:01:38
• Manson lived in Beach Boy Dennis Wilson's house, racking up huge bills including STD treatments, and co-wrote a Beach Boys song.
  03:04:44

• Clearview AI scraped about 30 billion images from Facebook and social media and provided them to police for facial recognition.
  00:25:03
• Psychedelics like psilocybin and lion's mane can spur neurons to sprout new dendrites and increase synapses.
  00:38:03
• Terence McKenna's stoned-ape theory ties a doubling of human brain size over two million years to early primates eating mushrooms.
  00:42:46
• In the Everglades, an estimated 99% of mammals are gone, with around half a million pythons and reported Nile crocodiles.
  01:00:54
• A dead python in the Everglades was found with a 12-foot alligator inside its body.
  01:03:30
• Mark Wahlberg gained roughly 30 pounds for a movie, and the hosts debate his alleged third nipple.
  01:09:40
• The penis bone in walruses and many mammals is technically called a baculum.
  02:24:39
• Noma in Copenhagen, repeatedly named best restaurant in the world, runs a 26-course tasting and announced it was closing.
  02:37:44
• Crows reportedly recognize and harass specific people who have wronged them or other crows.
  02:31:31
• Rogan cites the 1970 Schedule I drug act as partly designed to let authorities arrest anti-war protesters and Black Panthers.
  03:12:32

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