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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27 · 2h 48m

Joe Rogan Experience #2045 - Jimmy Carr

Jimmy Carr and Joe Rogan riff on comedy as a new art form, gratitude, the JFK film, and living with purpose.

Joe Rogan Experience #2045 - Jimmy Carr
The guest

Jimmy Carr — British stand-up comedian known for one-liners and dark edgy humor, with Netflix specials, who has played 40+ countries and is on tour.

The gist

Jimmy Carr visits Joe Rogan's Austin comedy club and the two spend the conversation celebrating a perceived 'golden age' of stand-up, arguing comedy is a brand-new art form that should be taught in schools and given a teachable language. They explore discipline versus freedom, imposter syndrome, gratitude as the cure for resentment, and the difference between envy (useful) and jealousy (destructive). The talk ranges widely: the Dick Gregory broadcast of the Zapruder JFK film, conspiracies and institutional capture (Catholic Church, the medical establishment), age-of-consent law, dyslexia, and addiction. They close on nuclear power, slavery in the Congo, Portugal's drug decriminalization, suicide in comedy, and whether America's best days are still ahead.

Big reveals

  • Carr reveals he's developing a comedy course/book breaking stand-up into roughly 50 joke types, with a vision of comedy being taught in schools.
  • They recount that comedian Dick Gregory aired the Zapruder JFK film on Geraldo Rivera's 1975 show, exposing it publicly 12-13 years after the assassination.
  • Carr says during lockdown his managers offered a podcast or a book; he 'took the gentleman's option' and wrote his self-help autobiography 'Before & Laughter.'
  • Carr discloses he was severely dyslexic and couldn't read until about age 11, yet gamed the system to get into Cambridge.
  • Carr explains he discovered CBT and NLP through a corporate training budget while working in marketing for Shell Oil in his twenties.
  • Rogan shares a NewsRadio writer friend named Drew shot himself while on the phone with his wife, his first experience of suicide.
  • Carr offers a 'hot take' that empires don't fall but transform: the Roman Empire became the Church and the British Empire became a bank.

Things worth remembering

  • Carr claims you laugh roughly 30 times more watching comedy live than watching the same footage on screen.
  • Carr says he's working on systematizing about 50 different joke types to teach stand-up like music notation.
  • A theory that the plague reshaped the Catholic Church: it killed about 90% of priests (who gave last rites), collapsing the priesthood's barrier to entry.
  • Carr cites the line, attributed to Socrates, that 'beauty is a short-lived tyranny.'
  • Dyslexia affects roughly 7% to up to 20% of people worldwide and is highly genetic.
  • Hunter S. Thompson reported the Hell's Angels motto: 'two can keep a secret if one is dead.'
  • Robin Dunbar's research: laughter is 'remote grooming' that let humans bond in groups of ~150 versus ~60 for gorillas, enabling specialization and civilization.
  • Whaling was the biggest industry in the world in 1903 and vanished within about 18 months once petrochemicals arrived.
  • Portugal/Lisbon decriminalized all drugs ~15 years ago and redirected drug-war spending into rehab and education.
  • There are roughly 40 million slaves in the world today, more than in 1865 when America abolished slavery.

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