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Andrew Huberman · 2022-02-14 · 2h 35m

The Science of Love, Desire and Attachment

Andrew Huberman breaks down the neuroscience of desire, love, and attachment, framing all three as products of autonomic nervous system coordination.

The Science of Love, Desire and Attachment
The guest

Andrew Huberman — Professor of neurobiology and ophthalmology at Stanford School of Medicine and host of the Huberman Lab Podcast. This is a solo episode with no outside guest.

The gist

In this solo Valentine's Day episode, Huberman explains the biology and psychology of romantic relationships, arguing that desire, love, and attachment all rest on coordination of the autonomic nervous system. He reviews childhood attachment styles from the strange situation task and how they map onto adult romance, the brain circuits Helen Fisher and others link to mating, and the Gottmans' Four Horsemen that predict divorce. He covers how odor, menstrual cycle, and birth control shape attraction, and how self-expansion affects fidelity. He closes with evidence-based supplements (Maca, Tongkat Ali, Tribulus) for libido.

Big reveals

  • Men rate women's body odors as most attractive during the pre-ovulatory phase, and oral contraception eliminates this effect in both directions.
  • Childhood attachment style measured as a pre-verbal toddler is strongly predictive of one's attachment style in adult romantic relationships.
  • All of desire, love, and attachment reduce to coordination of the autonomic nervous system, which Huberman calls the central 'seesaw' of relationships.
  • Empathy in love is reframed not as feeling-matching but as autonomic matching, sometimes by going opposite to a partner's state.
  • The Gottmans can predict divorce with 94% accuracy from the Four Horsemen, with contempt the strongest predictor, called the 'sulfuric acid of relationships.'
  • fMRI research shows people tend to select partners whose resting brain states differ from, or are opposite to, their own.
  • People who depend most on a partner for 'self-expansion' actually form the most unstable bonds and rate alternative partners as more attractive.
  • Driving dopamine too high to boost libido can lock the body in pursuit mode while making physical arousal impossible.

Things worth remembering

  • The same prairie vole species is monogamous in one US region and non-monogamous in another, differing mainly in brain vasopressin levels.
  • The book 'Attached' by two Columbia professors translates the strange situation research into tools for building secure adult attachment.
  • Studies of WWII bombing showed children's stress physiology mirrored their mothers'; calm mothers produced calmer, less-traumatized kids.
  • Sexual pursuit is sympathetic-driven, arousal is parasympathetic-driven, and orgasm/ejaculation flips back to sympathetic.
  • Helen Fisher proposes sex drive is a way to 'forage' for love partners, with desire preceding love which precedes attachment.
  • The viral '36 questions that lead to love' work, Huberman argues, by synchronizing two people's autonomic nervous systems through shared narrative.
  • Hormones and pheromones below conscious awareness drive 'chemistry,' including attraction or repulsion to a partner's smell and breath.
  • Maca at 2-3 grams per day raises libido without changing testosterone or estrogen, and can offset SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction.
  • PEA, a compound found in chocolate, is known to increase sexual desire and the perceived intensity of sexual experiences.
  • Indonesian Tongkat Ali is reportedly the most potent variety for libido and may raise free testosterone by lowering sex hormone binding globulin.

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Alpha GPC

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Phosphatidylserine

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Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find and Keep Love

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“the title of the book is "Attached: The New Science of Adult Attachment and How It Can Help You Find and Keep Love."” — Andrew Huberman 00:37:34
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Right Brain Psychotherapy

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Maca (L. meyenii) root

“three that in particular have good peer-reviewed research to support them are Maca, M-A-C-A, which is actually a root.” — Andrew Huberman 02:19:56
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Tongkat Ali (Eurycoma longifolia / longjack)

“Another substance that has been shown to increase libido across a range of human populations is so-called Tongkat Ali.” — Andrew Huberman 02:25:42
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