Joe Rogan Experience #2230 - Evan Hafer

Joe Rogan talks with Evan Hafer, a Special Forces and CIA paramilitary veteran, about the brutal realities of Iraq and Afghanistan, including cultural exploitation of children and the disillusionment that came from watching policymakers like Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz mismanage the wars. Hafer describes the epidemic of veteran suicide and his belief that psychedelics like ibogaine could heal combat trauma where the VA has failed. The conversation ranges across distrust of politicians, media censorship, the cartel and drug legalization, the military-industrial complex, and his JFK assassination theory rooted in the Bay of Pigs. It closes with a long, detailed exchange on hunting, broadhead and bow gear, and the meaning of eating wild game.

• Hafer says child sexual exploitation (bacha bazi) was pervasive in Afghanistan and openly known on the ground but denied by policymakers.
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• Marcus Capone's organization VETS has taken about a thousand war fighters to Mexico for ibogaine with an extremely high success rate eliminating pharmaceuticals.
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• Hafer's team had a chance to kill Muqtada al-Sadr early in the war but a CIA case officer wanted him as an asset; he later cost many American lives.
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• A CIA case officer bypassed security to bring an unsearched asset onto a base in Khost; the suicide bomber killed three of Hafer's friends.
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• Hafer reveals he secretly used psychedelics while holding a top secret clearance to reconnect with the ability to feel love after combat.
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• Hafer lays out his theory that JFK's assassination traces to the Bay of Pigs and an enraged CIA paramilitary establishment under Allen Dulles.
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• Hafer claims Jolly West (MK Ultra) visited Jack Ruby in jail and dosed him with acid before Ruby went insane and died of cancer.
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• Hafer says he did not have a solid bowel movement for roughly two years while living and eating with Afghan forces.
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• His team leader's advice, 'if you don't have a solution to the problem just shut the fuck up,' shaped his combat discipline.
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• Jeff Kirkham's line that 'psychology is more contagious than the flu' became central to Hafer's mindset under fire.
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• A CIA professor's first agency job was being dropped in Angola with a suitcase of money and told to go kill Cubans.
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• Special Forces and tier-one units against the cartel was reportedly proposed by Trump using covert action against cartel leadership.
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• At one point roughly 90 to 95 percent of the world's heroin came out of Afghanistan during the occupation.
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• The Pentagon has never passed an audit, repeatedly receiving a disclaimer of opinion despite handling trillions in assets.
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• Maui Nui Venison harvests invasive axis deer in Hawaii where there are no natural predators and ships frozen wild game.
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• Hafer shot at a bedded axis deer at 30 yards and it dodged the arrow because the species evolved alongside tigers.
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