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Lex Fridman · 2018-12-04 · 33m

Eric Schmidt: Google | Lex Fridman Podcast #8

Eric Schmidt on the history of computing, scaling platforms, five-year planning, the near-term promise of AI, and leadership.

Eric Schmidt: Google | Lex Fridman Podcast #8
The guest

Eric Schmidt — Former CEO of Google for 10 years and chairman for six more, a leading voice on technology and AI.

The gist

Eric Schmidt reflects on falling in love with technology as a boy in the 1960s and his early programming work, including the Lex program he built in 1975. He explains how scale transformed his thinking, why broad platforms serving the middle class create the biggest impact, and the importance of a real five-year plan grounded in understanding underlying platform shifts. On AI, Schmidt downplays near-term existential fears, arguing the field's real promise over the next five to ten years lies in healthcare and education. He closes on leadership styles, the value of early life experience among great founders, and why meaning and service to others, not wealth, drive happiness.

Big reveals

  • Schmidt created a program called Lex in 1975 with supervisor Michael Lesk that is still in use today.
  • He skipped Berkeley classes and drove an hour to Xerox PARC to use the rare Alto, predecessor of the modern personal computer.
  • Sergey Brin devised a 70/20/10 budget model and proved mathematically the 10% on unrelated bets was needed for growth.
  • Schmidt argues killer robots are not arriving and not even being built; AI's real near-term value is healthcare and education.
  • Larry and Sergey ran an extension cord to a neighboring Stanford room for power and raised $100K from Andy Bechtolsheim.
  • Schmidt frames money as a side effect, saying happiness above a low threshold correlates with meaning, purpose and serving others.

Things worth remembering

  • An old saying attributed to an MIT professor: we overestimate what can be done in one year and underestimate a decade.
  • Schmidt used MCP, a predecessor to TCP/IP, simply because it made sense to connect things, not foreseeing the internet.
  • Moore's law's traditional shrinking has largely halted as costs soared, shifting gains to algorithms and specialized hardware.
  • AI was partly invented at MIT in 1956-58 with original claims of a decade, then entered a roughly 30-year AI winter.
  • Geoff Hinton at Toronto and Montreal invented the deep learning model that powers modern AI, seminal work about 20 years ago.
  • A baby born today has a reasonable chance of living to 100 as life extension continues.
  • More than half the world now lives in cities, and moving to cities tends to improve health, productivity and education.
  • The trait unifying Jobs, Musk, Page and Zuckerberg is very high intelligence and processing information faster.
  • PageRank, the basis of Google, is one of the most cited papers in the world today.

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Love and Math

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