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Tim Ferriss · 2022-06-13 · 2h 17m

Insights from Sam Harris, Dr. Peter Attia, Ramit Sethi, and Elizabeth Gilbert | The Tim Ferriss Show

An experimental compilation of favorite segments from Tim Ferriss's friends: Sam Harris on meditation, Peter Attia on longevity, Ramit Sethi on money, and Elizabeth Gilbert on integrity.

Insights from Sam Harris, Dr. Peter Attia, Ramit Sethi, and Elizabeth Gilbert | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Sam Harris, Peter Attia, Ramit Sethi, and Elizabeth Gilbert — Four featured guests in a curated clip episode: Sam Harris (neuroscientist, Making Sense host, Waking Up app founder), Dr. Peter Attia (longevity physician, The Drive host), Ramit Sethi (author of I Will Teach You to Be Rich and host of its podcast), and Elizabeth Gilbert (author, appearing in a clip from The Tim Ferriss Show).

The gist

Tim Ferriss tries a new format, asking some of his favorite podcasters to each send a standalone segment from their own shows. Sam Harris opens with a set of guided meditation lessons from the Waking Up app on mindfulness, impermanence, and the self. Peter Attia delivers a longevity deep dive on aggressive cancer screening, ApoB and heart disease, protein and time-restricted feeding, and the outsized value of exercise. Ramit Sethi coaches a wealthy couple, Charles and Michelle, through a painful money conflict rooted in Charles's cheapness despite an eight-figure net worth. The episode closes with a clip from Tim's own interview with Elizabeth Gilbert on Marcus Aurelius, fear, and radical integrity.

Big reveals

  • Peter Attia argues nobody should ever die of colon cancer because the progression from non-malignant to malignant polyp is visible to the naked eye, and he recommends colonoscopies every one to three years starting at age 40.
  • Attia identifies the big three modifiable causes of heart disease as smoking, hypertension, and too many ApoB-carrying lipoproteins, calling ApoB the single most important biomarker for cardiovascular risk.
  • Attia now believes most of the benefit of time-restricted feeding comes simply from caloric restriction, with no magic to the eating window itself.
  • Attia says higher cardiorespiratory fitness and strength lower all-cause mortality more than any other intervention, dwarfing the risk multipliers of smoking, diabetes, or end-stage renal disease.
  • Ramit Sethi gets Charles to admit there is literally no amount Michelle could spend on a single vacation that would materially affect their finances, exposing that his cheapness is psychological, not financial.
  • Ramit introduces the worry-free number concept, setting Charles and Michelle a rule that any purchase under $3,000 for six months goes undiscussed, immediately freeing Michelle to order a Peloton.
  • Elizabeth Gilbert recounts how Martha Beck cured herself of autoimmune disease via an 'integrity cleanse,' checking every 30 minutes whether she was lying and correcting it, even at the cost of her marriage and family.
  • Gilbert shares Byron Katie's 'simple no' technique: always begin with 'thank you,' never use 'but,' and respond to manipulation by repeatedly adding 'and no.'

Things worth remembering

  • Sam Harris references Tim Urban's Wait But Why poster showing 90 years of life as 52 squares per line across 90 lines on a single page.
  • Harris tells a 2012 story of a woman in Iceland who joined a search party looking for herself after she changed clothes and went unrecognized.
  • Attia notes roughly 600,000 Americans died of cancer in 2020, with about 170,000 of those in the GI system.
  • Attia says he personally pays about $2,000 for a colonoscopy outside regular screening.
  • Attia cites ApoB percentiles from the Framingham Offspring Study: 5th percentile around 62, 50th around 100, 95th around 140 mg/dL.
  • A DEXA body composition scan typically costs in the low hundreds of dollars, around $100 in many places.
  • Attia argues the RDA for protein (about 0.8 g/kg) targets survival not thriving, suggesting closer to 2 g/kg or about a gram per pound.
  • Attia's last long dead hang was 4 minutes 35 seconds, and he cites grip strength as a strong proxy for longevity.
  • Charles and Michelle have a $10 million net worth and $2.5 million annual income yet still share a Netflix password, prompting his message to Ramit.
  • Elizabeth Gilbert calls Marcus Aurelius the last of the Five Good Emperors and the last emperor of the Pax Romana, praising his Meditations as a dialogue between fear and wisdom.

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Waking Up

Sam Harris (inferred)

“i also have an app called waking up which i previewed here on tim's podcast about three years ago” — Sam Harris 00:07:27
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Making Sense

Sam Harris (inferred)

“i host my own podcast making sense and i also have an app called waking up” — Sam Harris 00:07:27
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Wait But Why

Tim Urban

“tim urban who writes this wonderful blog titled wait but why often touches this topic he actually publishes a poster” — Sam Harris 00:11:37
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Alan Watts Talks

Alan Watts

“we recently added the full catalogue of alan watts's talks too which are great fun” — Sam Harris 00:39:55
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The Peter Attia Drive

Peter Attia (inferred)

“what you're about to hear are a few clips from my podcast the peter attia drive the drive is a deep dive podcast focusing on maximizing longevity” — Peter Attia 00:42:27
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I Will Teach You to Be Rich

Ramit Sethi (inferred)

“my name is ramit sethi and i'm the new york times best-selling author of i will teach you be rich” — Ramit Sethi 01:15:34
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I Will Teach You to Be Rich Podcast

Ramit Sethi (inferred)

“welcome to the i will teach you to be rich podcast my name is ramit sethi” — Ramit Sethi 01:15:34
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Meditations

Marcus Aurelius

“are you a fan of meditations by marcus aurelius yes... his meditations are so beautiful and they're so immediate” — Elizabeth Gilbert 01:46:42
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Diana, Herself

Martha Beck

“she wrote a book called diana herself that landed on my desk and i read it and i was like this is so dazzling” — Elizabeth Gilbert 01:53:58
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The School for the Work (nine-day school)

Byron Katie

“if you have the chance to ever take her nine day school for the work it's the most important thing i've ever done for myself” — Elizabeth Gilbert 02:07:48
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