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Tim Ferriss · 2021-06-23 · 1h 19m

Q&A with Tim — Exercise And Morning Routines, Holotropic Breathwork, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show

Tim Ferriss answers fan questions on his morning and exercise routines, holotropic breathwork, self-compassion, meaning, and managing trauma.

Q&A with Tim — Exercise And Morning Routines, Holotropic Breathwork, and More | The Tim Ferriss Show
The guest

Tim Ferriss — Author, investor, and host of The Tim Ferriss Show, known for The 4-Hour Workweek and for interviewing world-class performers about their habits and routines. Here he flips the format to be the guest in a solo Q&A with his supporter group.

The gist

In this solo Q&A, Tim Ferriss responds to questions pre-submitted and live-streamed from his fan-supporter community. He walks through his current 2021 morning routine and weekly exercise regimen (acro yoga, rock climbing, weight training, and walking), and discusses joint-pain management, fasting, and his return to the slow-carb diet. He goes deep on psychological and philosophical topics, including his recent struggles with the meaninglessness of life, self-compassion versus a hard-charging attitude, ontological shock from childhood trauma, and the fear of being misunderstood. He also covers holotropic breathwork, psychedelic research, sleep optimization, and shares numerous book and tool recommendations throughout.

Big reveals

  • Tim candidly admits that for the past several months he has had constant thoughts about the meaninglessness of life and significant angst around death, and shares his plan to reboot via rereading Frankl and biographies of people who found meaning.
  • Tim reveals he is no longer hesitating about having children and is actively seeing fertility doctors, going through the 'pre-flight checklist'; his past hesitation stemmed from doubts about being a good father and a genetic predisposition to depression.
  • On self-compassion versus grinding, Tim argues there are counter-examples of friends with outsized financial success who were not self-flagellating, concluding self-compassion carries very little downside even in your 20s and 30s.
  • Tim shares his 'jacket/smoking jacket' analogy: meditation and therapy don't make you lose your edge; you simply learn to take the edge off and put it back on when genuinely needed, as he did to handle a stalker threatening his family.
  • Tim breaks down 'ontological shock' (a term he first heard from Roland Griffiths), explaining how a single mystical or trauma-surfacing experience can take weeks, months, or years to reconcile with ordinary reality.
  • On the fear of being misunderstood, Tim offers the reframe that we dramatically overestimate how much others think about us, since everyone is the lead actor in their own 'me me me movie.'

Things worth remembering

  • Tim's morning routine starts with 20 minutes of meditation (often transcendental meditation), then Pique tea or coffee, often with Four Sigmatic mushroom coffee and Laird superfood creamer.
  • He organizes his week thematically, batching activities like phone calls into dedicated days (e.g., Tuesdays) rather than spreading them across every day.
  • His exercise routine includes acro yoga twice a week (started in quarantine via Zoom with instructor Jason Nemer), climbing twice a week, weight training 1-2 times, and substantial daily walking.
  • Holotropic breathwork was created by psychiatrist Stan Grof as an alternative to psychedelics after they were made illegal; 'holotropic' means turning toward wholeness.
  • Tim warns that legitimate well-trained indigenous practitioners essentially never call themselves 'shamans'; self-described shamans are a red flag.
  • For joint pain he uses Kelly Starrett's Voodoo Floss and contrast therapy via a chest freezer converted into a cold plunge (he warns to unplug it first to avoid electrocution).
  • Tim notes that doing intense breathwork (like Wim Hof or holotropic) after a psychedelic dose can have a multiplicative effect, making 50 micrograms of LSD subjectively feel like 100-200.
  • He is back on the slow-carb diet and still aims for a 72-hour water fast once per month plus at least one week-long fast per year.
  • Tim reads roughly three to five hours per week, typically before bed for 30-60 minutes, significantly more when traveling.
  • For sleep he uses California poppy, magnesium L-threonate, the Oura ring for tracking, and an Eight Sleep bed cover, noting caffeine's quarter-life is about 12 hours.

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