Michael Mauboussin breaks down how great investors decide: base rates, wisdom of crowds, decision biases, and complex adaptive systems.

Michael Mauboussin — Head of Consilient Research on Counterpoint Global at Morgan Stanley Investment Management, longtime Columbia Business School adjunct finance professor, and author of investing classics including Think Twice, The Success Equation, More Than You Know, and Expectations Investing.
Tim Ferriss interviews Michael Mauboussin on what separates good investors from great ones, arguing it comes down far more to decision-making quality than analytical tools. They explore the wisdom of crowds and the three conditions (diversity, aggregation, incentives) that make crowds smart or send them haywire, with diversity being the most fragile. Mauboussin makes a strong case for base rates (the 'outside view') over the natural 'inside view,' illustrated through the Big Brown Triple Crown betting story. The conversation covers decision biases like overconfidence and confirmation bias, tools to widen alternatives (premortems, red teaming, counterfactuals), the limits of intuition and expertise, and how viewing markets as complex adaptive systems reshapes one's worldview. It closes with personal habits, parenting reflections, and book recommendations.
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Michael Mauboussin
“Michael is the author of many books including the success equation subtitle untangling skill and luck in business sports and investing” — Tim Ferriss 00:05:40Find it on Amazon
Michael Mauboussin
“think twice harnessing the power of counterintuition which I've mentioned several times on this podcast” — Tim Ferriss 00:05:40Find it on Amazon
Michael Mauboussin
“more than you know finding financial wisdom in unconventional places more than you know was named one of the 100 best business books of all time” — Tim Ferriss 00:06:11Find it on Amazon
Michael Mauboussin and Alfred Rappaport
“Michael is also Alo co-author with Alfred Rapaort of expectations investing reading stock prices for better returns.” — Tim Ferriss 00:06:11Find it on Amazon
Alfred Rappaport
“Guy in my training program gave me a copy of Al Rapaort's book called Creating Shoulder Value which was published in 1986.” — Michael Mauboussin 00:10:19Find it on Amazon
James Surowiecki
“using some of the language from Jim Swiggy's great book the wisdom of crowds which came out probably in 2004 2005” — Michael Mauboussin 00:21:47Find it on Amazon
Scott E. Page
“Scott's written a number of great books. The difference is his big book on this.” — Michael Mauboussin 00:24:52Find it on Amazon
Scott E. Page
“And he wrote a smaller book called The Diversity Bonus, which is, you know, shorter treatment of the same topic.” — Michael Mauboussin 00:24:52Find it on Amazon
Tim Ferriss
“I recommended it long ago in my 2010 number one New York Times bestseller, The 4-Hour Body, and I did not get paid to do so.” — Tim Ferriss 00:42:38Find it on Amazon
Peter Bernstein
“against the gods is written by Peter Bernstein who was a brilliant economist and historian and it is the history of human understanding of risk” — Michael Mauboussin 00:44:14Find it on Amazon
Peter Bernstein
“He also wrote a book called capital ideas which basically does the same thing for the history of finance. So Peter Bernstein that is money” — Michael Mauboussin 00:45:18Find it on Amazon
Michael Rothschild
“I picked up a book called Bionomics by a guy named Michael Rothschild... this book was written I think originally in 1990” — Michael Mauboussin 00:45:49Find it on Amazon
Philip Mirowski
“there's a wonderful book called more heat than light by a professor named Phil Morowski which documents how econ economists literally... mapped over equations from Newtonian physics” — Michael Mauboussin 00:46:21Find it on Amazon
M. Mitchell Waldrop
“The other is Complexity by Mitchell Waldrip, if I'm getting that pronunciation right.” — Tim Ferriss 00:44:14Find it on Amazon
Patrick O'Shaughnessy
“Patrick Oshanosy. So... Also, great podcaster. I recommend people check out Patrick's podcast.” — Tim Ferriss 00:54:08Find it on Amazon
Robert Sapolsky
“he wrote a book called Behave in 2017, which is, I would say, probably the best book I've ever read on human nature.” — Michael Mauboussin 01:08:37Find it on Amazon
Robert Sapolsky
“he wrote a book called Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers in the mid 1990s, which is it's a wonderful title and it's a wonderful book about the idea of stress.” — Michael Mauboussin 01:09:38Find it on Amazon
Josh Waitzkin
“By the way, the art of learning is fabulous. I'm a huge fan.” — Michael Mauboussin 01:27:41Find it on Amazon
John McPhee
“I read draft number four last year and I was just like it's so on some level it's like brilliant” — Michael Mauboussin 01:36:57Find it on Amazon
Judith Rich Harris
“the work of Judith Rich Harris... her first book is called the nurture assumption” — Michael Mauboussin 01:41:02Find it on Amazon
Thomas Gordon (inferred)
“I always like this book called Parent Effectiveness Training PET. I mean, what I liked about it was...” — Michael Mauboussin 01:42:03Find it on Amazon
Melanie Mitchell
“There's a book by Melanie Mitchell who is now uh resident faculty at the Santa Fe Institute called Complexity a guided tour” — Michael Mauboussin 01:46:38Find it on Amazon
Philip Tetlock and Dan Gardner
“there's a quote from Phil Tutlock's book, Phil and Dan Gardner, Super Forecasting. There's just a quote which I love and I find myself repeating it often” — Michael Mauboussin 01:47:42Find it on Amazon
Richards J. Heuer Jr.
“there's a really interesting book called The Psychology of Intelligence Analysis... by Richard's Huer.” — Michael Mauboussin 01:48:45Find it on Amazon
Michael Mauboussin and Alfred Rappaport
“we did another version of it 20 years later and that came out in the fall of 2021. So expectations revised” — Michael Mauboussin 01:53:23Find it on Amazon