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Lewis Capaldi: The Untold Story Of Becoming A Global Superstar At 22 | E178

Lewis Capaldi opens up about anxiety, panic attacks, Tourette's, fame and why playing live still drives him.

Lewis Capaldi: The Untold Story Of Becoming A Global Superstar At 22 | E178
The guest

Lewis Capaldi — Scottish singer-songwriter who became a global superstar at 22 with his debut album Divinely Uninspired to a Hellish Extent and the hit Someone You Loved.

The gist

Lewis Capaldi sits down with Stephen Bartlett to discuss his childhood in Scotland, his early obsession with performing, and the roots of his anxiety and hypochondria. He speaks candidly about developing panic attacks and being diagnosed with Tourette's after fame hit, including a harrowing 2020 arena tour where he twitched and froze on stage. Capaldi explains that playing live is the only reason he endures the parts of music he hates, and how therapy and accepting his emotions have helped him cope. He also reflects on imposter syndrome, dating as a famous person, his self-deprecating humour, and his fears about releasing his second album after the runaway success of his first.

Big reveals

  • Capaldi says he never had a panic attack until after he became famous; success tipped his lifelong anxiety over the edge.
  • He reveals he was diagnosed with Tourette's about two months before the interview, which explained the twitching he'd long had.
  • His March 2020 arena tour was 'the worst two weeks of my life' with panic attacks and twitching every single night.
  • He paid for a private MRI scan and cancelled a festival in Austin because his hypochondria convinced him something was seriously wrong.
  • His dad cried in the car because he thought Lewis was having a seizure, before anyone knew it was Tourette's.
  • His mother has had to sleep in his bed as recently as a month before the interview because his anxiety got so bad.
  • Capaldi turns the show's central question on himself, admitting he struggles to know what makes him happy outside of music.

Things worth remembering

  • His first performance was singing We Will Rock You aged four at a French caravan-holiday karaoke night.
  • He stopped using all social media at 16 because he thought being offline was 'cool and edgy'.
  • His only career goal as a teen was making enough money from music to avoid a 'real job'.
  • Bruises was the first song he ever officially released, after roughly 10-12 years of writing songs.
  • His breakout social-media moment came filming himself in daft cat-eye glasses joking about being famous.
  • A festive marketing campaign was just a close-up of his face saying 'Merry Christmas' on London Tube posters with nothing being promoted.
  • He had a panic attack the entire time at the Grammys and felt relieved when he didn't win.
  • He was kicked off Hinge, Bumble and Tinder because people assumed his profile was fake.

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Divinely Uninspired to a Hellish Extent

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“my first album's called divinely uninspired to a hellish extent which is like kind of getting seeing my album before i can see my album” — Lewis Capaldi 00:33:38
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Bruises

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“the first song i ever released was bruises which was on my album that's the first one i've ever put out” — Lewis Capaldi 00:55:25
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Rush

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“there was a song called rush but these are songs i still love song called rush and song called tough” — Lewis Capaldi 01:00:01
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Tough

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“song called tough tough we thought was like this angle we thought this is the one that's gonna if anyone was going to like blow up” — Lewis Capaldi 01:00:01
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“remember that robbie williams song hey oh here she goes... it's just all like cool and thing and it's a great song i love that song” — Lewis Capaldi 01:08:27
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