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Joe Rogan · 2026-04-15 · 2h 00m

Joe Rogan Experience #2483 - Spencer Pratt

Spencer Pratt makes his case for LA mayor, framing the Palisades fire and homelessness crisis as organized crime and corruption.

Joe Rogan Experience #2483 - Spencer Pratt
The guest

Spencer Pratt — Reality TV star (The Hills) turned Los Angeles mayoral candidate. A Palisades fire victim who lost his and his parents' homes, he is now a lead plaintiff suing the city and state and is running against incumbent Karen Bass.

The gist

Spencer Pratt explains how losing his Palisades home in the January 7th fire pushed him from social-media activist to LA mayoral candidate. He argues the fire was the result of criminal mismanagement, an empty Santa Ynez reservoir, an underfunded fire department, and protected-plant policies that blocked fire breaks, rather than climate change or hurricane winds. Most of the conversation centers on what he calls a homeless-industrial complex: $20-plus billion he says is siphoned through NGOs that buy buildings with tax money, leave beds empty, and never fix the problem. He pledges to enforce existing laws, bring in IRS and federal investigators, offer cash bounties for filming fraud, mandate addiction treatment, and clean the streets before the 2028 Olympics. He paints both Bass and his DSA opponent Nithya Raman as part of an organized-crime-style machine.

Big reveals

  • Says he decided to run only after a year of uncovering what he calls a cover-up of how 7,000 homes and his own burned down.
  • Cites the Cheviot Hills senior-home deal that sold from $11.2M to $27.3M in days using taxpayer grant funds, now a federal fraud case.
  • Claims firefighters were told to 'pull the hoses' on a still-smoldering fire because the department is too underfunded to stay.
  • Says Chief Crowley warned Bass she was 'dangerously underfunded' weeks before the fire, and Bass then cut another $17M from the fire department.
  • Claims $400 million sat unspent in a homeless account at the same time fire funding was cut.
  • Alleges the mayor's office used LAFD Foundation charity money to hire a crisis PR firm to alter the fire after-action report.
  • Reveals the deputy mayor left in charge during the fire was on house arrest for calling in a bomb threat to City Hall.
  • Suspects Bass and DSA candidate Nithya Raman coordinated a last-minute filing to block him from a November runoff.

Things worth remembering

  • Pratt says max wind speed in the Palisades during the fire was about 40 mph, not the 'hurricane winds' that were reported.
  • Claims the $100M-plus FireAid charity money went to 200-plus NGOs and that almost no fire victims actually received funds.
  • Cites a council member bragging about $16M to house ~60 people, which he calculates at roughly $250,000 per person.
  • Says LAPD staffing is the lowest it has been in 30 years.
  • The Santa Ynez reservoir held 117 million gallons but was drained for over a year over a tear that cost ~$120,000 to fix.
  • Says helicopters spent 66% of their time flying to Malibu and Encino for water because nearby reservoirs were empty.
  • Claims insurers dropped Palisades homeowners, some after 40-plus years, right before the fire.
  • States fewer than 20 homes (he says 14-16) have been rebuilt in the 15 months since the fire out of 7,000 destroyed.
  • Compares LA's homeless 'body business' to a cartel laundering more money than El Chapo.
  • Claims the city gave $170-200M to lawyers who sue tenants while providing no fund for tenants to defend themselves.

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