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Joe Rogan · 2024-06-27 · 2h 48m

Joe Rogan Experience #2078 - Duncan Trussell

Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell riff on AI as a hatching god, depression, diabetes, conspiracies, psychedelics, and dissolving the ego.

Joe Rogan Experience #2078 - Duncan Trussell
The guest

Duncan Trussell — Comedian, host of the Duncan Trussell Family Hour podcast, and longtime psychedelic/spiritual philosopher who co-hosted the Midnight Gospel with Pendleton Ward.

The gist

Joe Rogan and Duncan Trussell open on UFO disclosure as a deliberately boring 'slow drip,' then spiral into the imminent arrival of strong general AI, framed as a cosmic 'final bunny' or hatching machine-god that may already be manipulating culture. Duncan shares a major personal turn: a recent type-2 diabetes diagnosis that he traces partly to sugar in his vapes, and how quitting sugar and nicotine plus working out (saunas, cold plunge, sled, chin-ups) transformed his mood and energy. The conversation ranges across depression and male isolation, malaria-drug-induced psychosis, the pharmaceutical-and-sugar profit complex, election fraud and January 6th, Bohemian Grove, Burning Man, and the slow cultural acceptance of psychedelics. Throughout, Duncan returns to a nondual spiritual thesis: that suffering and addiction are 'gurus' teaching us we are more than our bodies. He closes by plugging his audiobook, The Movie of Me to the Movie of We.

Big reveals

  • Duncan reveals he was diagnosed with type-2 diabetes about a month ago and immediately cut out all sugar, feeling reborn within days.
  • He links his blood-sugar spikes to vaping, after Googling and finding many vapes contain sugar/sugar alcohols, and quit vaping too.
  • Duncan discloses he has testicular cancer, which prevents him from going on testosterone therapy.
  • Duncan recounts taking malaria medication (mefloquine) in India that caused a vivid disemboweling nightmare; his friend got full amnesia and was institutionalized after the same drug.
  • They propose presidential candidates should be required to undergo documented psychedelic sessions, citing Graham Hancock's '20 ayahuasca/psilocybin experiences' idea.
  • They react to a Fauci hot-mic clip about making life difficult so people lose their 'ideological bull' and get vaccinated.

Things worth remembering

  • Element 115 is described (via Bob Lazar) as a super-heavy element that produces its own anti-gravitational field used to propel craft.
  • They recount the ChatGPT 'happiest bunny' image experiment escalating into a cosmic, DMT-like depiction of God.
  • Cameron Hanes's son broke a chin-up world record with 8,100 chin-ups in 24 hours, done in sets of five.
  • Duncan explains Pavel Tsatsouline's 'strong first' philosophy: strength is a skill, so do low reps with long rests to avoid fatigue.
  • Mefloquine (FDA-approved 1989) was linked in the 1990s to vivid dreams, mania, seizures, depression, suicide and homicide.
  • Leg-lengthening surgery cuts the bone and uses a screw to separate it a millimeter at a time to gain height.
  • Nixon's leaked White House tapes show him calling the Bohemian Grove the 'most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine.'
  • A man was arrested for posting a meme telling people they could vote for Hillary Clinton by texting.

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