Joe Rogan Experience #2037 - Alex Berenson

Joe Rogan and Alex Berenson open on addiction, gambling, and how legalizing and normalizing vices opens them to people who otherwise wouldn't partake. The bulk of the conversation is Berenson relitigating the pandemic: he argues mRNA vaccines stopped working quickly, may provoke variants, carry real myocarditis risk for young people, and have effectively failed, yet the US public health establishment keeps pushing boosters. He details his lawsuits against the government, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and ex-FDA-commissioner-turned-Pfizer-board-member Scott Gottlieb over censorship that got him banned from Twitter. The pair range widely into pharma corruption, free speech and the Missouri v. Biden case, UFOs, the 2024 election and Trump, climate-change messaging, and how social media tribalism broke American culture and media.

• Berenson reveals he is suing the federal government, Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla, and board member Scott Gottlieb in one lawsuit over his Twitter ban.
  00:55:38
• He claims Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner now on Pfizer's board, called a senior Twitter lobbyist and within hours Berenson got his fifth strike and was banned.
  00:58:10
• He argues the vaccine workplace mandates were political theater after the Afghanistan collapse, designed to target healthy workers, not the at-risk elderly.
  01:03:22
• Claims roughly 2 billion of 5 billion vaccine doses were thrown away unused, a ~$40 billion gift to the drug companies.
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• His tweet citing the CDC's own math went viral: a million teen doses to maybe save one life produces 100,000-200,000 severe side effects.
  01:11:36
• Says Israel's early data showed protection waned fast and that mass-vaccinating during a pandemic helped drive the Delta variant.
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• Frames Missouri v. Biden, headed to the Supreme Court, as central to his own First Amendment case against the Biden administration.
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• Toxoplasmosis, a cat-gut parasite, rewires rats to be sexually attracted to cat urine and lose fear of cats so they get eaten.
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• At one point roughly 50% of people in France were infected with toxoplasmosis, which is linked to reckless behavior and crash victims.
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• Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla's pay nearly doubled from about $18.8 million to about $33 million between 2020 and 2022.
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• Scott Gottlieb joined Pfizer's board exactly three months after leaving the FDA, reportedly paid about $400,000 a year.
  00:57:40
• CO2 is only about 0.04% of the atmosphere; below roughly 0.02% plant life starts dying.
  01:52:20
• In the 19th-century Opium Wars, the US and Britain forced opium on China, devastating that society.
  00:13:34
• UFO sightings reportedly spiked after the 1945-1947 nuclear detonations and tests, the origin of much modern UFO folklore.
  00:41:09
• Netflix's Chimp Empire researchers embedded with a chimp group for 30 years; the chimps act natural as long as humans stay 20 yards away.
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• Dr. Leana Wen said on CNN that real COVID death estimates may be around 30% of what was reported.
  02:43:59
• Berenson argues the great longevity gains of the last 200 years came mostly from sanitation and clean water, not medicine.
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