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Tim Ferriss · 2023-10-02 · 1h 17m

Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thinking Big, Building Resilience, 7 Tools for Life, and More

Arnold Schwarzenegger tells Tim Ferriss how a botched heart surgery, a brutal upbringing, and thinking big shaped his life rules.

Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thinking Big, Building Resilience, 7 Tools for Life, and More
The guest

Arnold Schwarzenegger — Bodybuilding champion, Hollywood action star, former California governor, and author of Be Useful: Seven Tools for Life.

The gist

Arnold recounts the 2018 aortic valve replacement that went wrong and forced an emergency open-heart surgery, and how relentless goal-setting around walking got him out of the hospital in six days. He traces the origins of his life philosophy from selling ice cream at age 10 to buy a training suit, to his father's demand to 'be useful' and serve others. He explains how a harsh upbringing made him resilient while breaking his fragile brother, and walks through the rules in his book: never think small, sell sell sell, shift gears, don't listen to naysayers, and give back. He shares the Twins backend deal, lessons on selling from Andy Warhol, his grief over Franco Columbu, and candid reflections on aging and the inevitability of physical decline. Throughout, he frames failure as the engine of greatness and urges people to 'break the mirror' and help others.

Big reveals

  • During his routine non-invasive aortic valve replacement, surgeons poked through the heart wall with the cable, causing internal bleeding and forcing an emergency open heart surgery he woke up unaware of, 16 hours later.
  • Arnold beat the pneumonia risk by relentlessly setting walking goals, progressing from walking around his bed to hundreds of yards down hospital hallways, getting out in six days instead of seven.
  • He explains that the same harsh, punishing upbringing that made him strong and goal-driven instead broke his more fragile brother, who started drinking and died in a drunk-driving car accident around age 24.
  • His core 'never think small' lesson: thinking big takes no more effort than thinking small, so build your own ladder rather than climbing one someone else built.
  • For Twins, Arnold, Danny DeVito and Ivan Reitman took zero salary in exchange for 37.5 percent ownership each, turning a $16.5M-budget film into roughly $250M worldwide and a personal payday of about $70M.
  • On grief, Arnold says the hardest part isn't the initial shock but the daily reminders, like seeing the chess board where he and Franco Columbu played two or three times a week for ten years.
  • He argues your lifespan is largely 'set' at birth but you can stretch or shorten it: his father, set for maybe 80, wiped out at 66 from smoking and alcohol; his mother refused valve surgery and died at 76.
  • His 'give back' rule: nobody is self-made; 5.8 million people voted him governor and mentors like Joe Weider brought him to America, so recognizing that creates a responsibility to help others.

Things worth remembering

  • At around age 10 Arnold sold roughly 145-180 ice cream bars in a day around his lakeside village at one shilling each, earning about 180 shillings to buy himself a training suit.
  • His father opposed bodybuilding, calling it 'Selbstfrönung' (self-glorification), and told him to chop wood or shovel coal for older neighbors to build muscle while being useful.
  • Arnold competed in his first Mr. Universe contest at age 19, placed runner-up, then won Mr. Universe at age 20 as the youngest ever.
  • He spent five hours a day training in bodybuilding, then applied the same five hours daily to English, acting, speech, voice and accent-removal lessons.
  • Arnold made his first million dollars in real estate before his acting career took off, giving him financial freedom to turn down 'bouncer' and 'Nazi officer' roles.
  • A sales lesson at age 15 in a hardware store: his boss switched who he thought the customer was mid-pitch, realizing the wife (not the husband who paid) was the real decision-maker.
  • Andy Warhol taught him that you sell yourself, not just the art; Arnold bought a large Warhol Indian piece for $30,000 that he says is now worth $10-15 million.
  • The Franco Columbu posing trophy at the Arnold Classic intentionally features a double-bicep pose so people remember Franco's arms, since he was famous for his overpowering back, chest and deltoids.
  • On failure, Arnold cites Muhammad Ali only counting sit-ups once they start hurting, and Michael Jordan crediting his thousands of missed shots and lost games for making him great.
  • Arnold says he started his Pump Club newsletter (over half a million subscribers) to build a 'positive corner on the internet,' and that some of his motivational speeches have reached five to six billion people.

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