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Andrew Huberman · 2023-09-11 · 2h 21m

Journal Club with Dr. Peter Attia | Metformin for Longevity & The Power of Belief Effects

Huberman and Attia dissect two papers: metformin's contested longevity claims and a study showing belief about nicotine dose changes the brain.

Journal Club with Dr. Peter Attia | Metformin for Longevity & The Power of Belief Effects
The guest

Peter Attia — Physician and longevity expert, author of the bestselling book Outlive and host of The Drive podcast. He focuses on healthspan, lifespan, and metabolic health.

The gist

In their first joint Journal Club, Andrew Huberman and Dr. Peter Attia walk listeners through how scientists critically read research papers. Attia presents a large Danish-registry study (Keyes et al.) that reassesses the famous 2014 Bannister metformin paper, concluding metformin offers no longevity advantage that erases the harms of type 2 diabetes. Huberman then covers a bioRxiv preprint showing that simply believing you took a low, medium, or high dose of nicotine produces a dose-dependent change in real brain activation, not just subjective feelings. Along the way they explain insulin resistance, epidemiology methods, Kaplan-Meier curves, hazard ratios, statistical power, fMRI, and belief versus placebo effects.

Big reveals

  • Attia notes the 2014 Bannister paper claimed metformin gave diabetics a 15% reduction in all-cause mortality versus non-diabetics, the result that drove the metformin-longevity craze.
  • The newer Keyes study finds metformin did NOT undo the disadvantage of diabetes, undercutting the longevity hype.
  • Attia stopped taking metformin five years ago after noticing it elevated his resting lactate and likely blunts hypertrophy and strength.
  • Metformin has repeatedly FAILED in the rigorous Interventions Testing Program (ITP), while rapamycin, acarbose, canagliflozin and 17-alpha estradiol succeeded.
  • The nicotine study's twist: all subjects got the same low dose, yet brain activation scaled with what they were TOLD they received.
  • Belief about nicotine dose changed actual thalamus-to-prefrontal-cortex brain activation, not merely subjective experience.
  • Attia surprises Huberman by switching his planned paper at the last minute, choosing a simpler epidemiology paper for broader appeal.

Things worth remembering

  • You and I sitting with normal blood sugar have only about five grams of glucose in our total circulation.
  • The difference between metabolic health and profound type 2 diabetes is roughly one teaspoon of glucose in your bloodstream.
  • Sleeping only four hours a night for a week can cut your glucose disposal by about half, inducing profound insulin resistance.
  • The Bannister study used 'informative censoring,' dropping metformin patients who progressed, which inflated the drug's apparent benefit.
  • In the ITP, rapamycin extended lifespan ~15% even when given to 60-month-old mice, late in life.
  • Hotel workers told their work counts as exercise lost 12% more weight than a control group, with no difference in actual movement.
  • Nicotine increases signal-to-noise of sensory information via nicotinic receptors in the thalamus, sharpening perception.
  • Medical students develop a warped sense of disease prevalence, fixating on rare 'zebras' like sarcoidosis and situs inversus.
  • Men hugging a thermos to their body in restaurants worldwide are likely Uruguayans drinking yerba mate after meals.
  • Attia frames the brain as a prediction machine where your beliefs about a drug are themselves an important input.

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Guest’s ownBook

Outlive

Peter Attia

“he is the author of a best-selling book entitled outlive which is a phenomenal resource on all things Health span and lifespan” — Andrew Huberman 00:00:00
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Guest’s ownMedia

The Drive

Peter Attia

“he is the host of the very popular podcast the drive where he interviews various experts in all domains of medicine and scientists” — Andrew Huberman 00:00:32
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The 4-Hour Body

Tim Ferriss

“I still am a big fan of Tim ferriss's uh slow carbohydrate diet because I like to eat meat and vegetables and starches” — Andrew Huberman 01:18:03
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